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    Rng Gems

    As many may have heard, gems are going to be introduced in MoP update, and from people that have already tried MoP on the PTS, we realized that the gems have the following properties.
    1. It is NOT tradeable
    2. Stat Value is RANDOMIZED
    3. Stat Value can NOT be rerolled
    4. Stat it gives are RANDOMIZED
    5. Stat once given can NOT be rerolled
    6. Power rank is calculated BASED ON the stat values

    Let me share a small story with you, since I'm an old player that have played trove since the close beta.

    Equipment players used to get, has a star (*, not the stars we know today), or two, or nothing, behind each stat, to indicate how good a gear is. With ** meaning that the stat on the gear is within 95% of its maximum possible value. Back at then, players are able to use the chaos forge to reroll all the stats and values to let players try to get better and better gear.

    However, due to heavy complaints from the community, Trion decided to make a system so fair so that all of the player who worked hard and invested enough time into the game, would be able to reach to the top gear, without RNG dependent. It was peace, everyone was happy.

    But as we all know, peace will never last. With the infamous Mantle of Power update, not only did they limit the player to get Empowered Gem, as well as the chances of Class Gem keys, but also did they screwed up the gem system, by making them rng heavy, and NOT able to change.

    (Just in case if you didn't bother reading the post linked above, here's a quick summary.)

    As a non-patron player, you can get 500 cubits a day, and a Gem Booster Box costs 500 cubits as well, which means the player can get 7 Gem Booster Box a week.

    And the total amount of lunar soul you can get for completing all three mode of DotM, is 4 Lunar Souls a week, and each Empowered Gem Box costs 1 Lunar Soul, so the player can get 4 Empowered Gem Box a week.

    I was even being super optimistic and assume that the player can get a guaranteed Empowered Gem box out of every gem booster box, which we all know, THAT IS BASICALLY NOT POSSIBLE.
    As I have suggested to Avarem, here are some chances I believe the community would accept more if they still insist to make gems rng dependent.
    • Stat value can be randomized
    • Stat can be randomized
    • Skill on Empowered Gem (where applicable) can be randomized

    Though I'd believe that the community would be much more appreciate if the gem system is changed in line with the current equipment system.
    • All stat value should be the same, at the same rarity, same level, and same star.
    • All stats (except first) can be randomized
    • All gem related items are tradeable

    Therefore, I would like everyone to join this campaign, copy and paste the following code into your signature, or even reply in this post, to show support this thread.

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    Update:
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    Oh, also we're reducing RNG on the empowered gems themselves by limiting the damage type on class gems and also removing the stat range RNG from these gems (since they're so much rarer than regular gems).
    Horray for Empowered Gem, now let's focus on the normal gems too!

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    ***All gem related items are tradeable***

    Disagree - people with 8 accounts (multibox) will have an advantage, as it was throughout the game.

    We just need to add slots to your inventory or personal chest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medont View Post
    All gem related items are tradeable

    Disagree - people with 8 accounts will have an advantage, as it was throughout the game.

    We just need to add slots to your inventory or personal chest
    So are people that paid cash in the game.

    That's not really valid. The person with 8 account simply means that they worked 8 times harder for the items.

    But I get your point. I guess I could include except empowered gems.

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    All stat value should be the same, at the same rarity, same level, and same star.
    All stats (except first) can be rolled
    All gem related items are tradeable
    There, that is more like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medont View Post
    ***All gem related items are tradeable***

    Disagree - people with 8 accounts will have an advantage, as it was throughout the game.

    We just need to add slots to your inventory or personal chest
    They already do have an advantage and Devs does nothing about it. I doubt they will change the system 1 week before going live. I hope im wrong on this one.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenHero View Post
    They already do have an advantage and Devs does nothing about it. I doubt they will change the system 1 week before going live. I hope im wrong on this one.
    your right, they will never change it now, too much time and effort was put into what they got now to change 1 week before its released. personally I'm not looking forward to this update at all ...

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    Yes, I hope Gems will work like Gears, re-roll, rarity upgrade, and all.
    It costs Cubits doesn't mean it should be totally untradable, just like everything else, Cubit bought boxes will be untradable while Credit ones are. And those boxes dropped from adventure world should totally be tradable like Gears.

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    Its funny when people say that the effort was put into MoP's update when it comes to balance. This is what happens when you save a major game changing update a couple weeks before release.
    I quit this game.

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    Perhaps this system will be useful for RND today. It is difficult to make a choice of course everything will be very quickly and easily if you do not do this RND
    What to do when all get? content in this game still no. All the "new worlds" - mixed old.
    People want not what actually the developers need to do

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    I already said no by deciding not to buy a pack (I had been planning on getting the one with the aura) once I found out that the class gems with the keys could end up being **** and wasting money, and deciding to quit the game because of all of the time gates with empowered gems/boxes in addition to the RNG, all though it isn't as bad with the changes mentioned in the quote in the OP. At this point I am just checking the forums to see if they make the game worth playing again.

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