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    Post Trove Livestream Notes 10/08/2018

    Welcome to the latest live stream notes thread!

    Tonights stream we got given a brief apology and info onto the recent bug that's plagued the PC version of the game and a nice amount of giveaways including the twitch drop for those who were linked.

    Recent Bug issue:

    On PC there was a bug that people were able to exploit to gain lots of items and flux into the economy.Once we realised it was happening, we brought all the serves down to determine where it was happening and then immediately started the cleanup process for the PC players.

    When this sort of thing happens, were always making decisions on how to best preserve the economy and balance that whilst not punishing legit players and by not having the game down too long. We understand people obviously want to play the game. Its important for us to say we did not do a full rollback despite people asking.

    There are risk inherited by doing rollbacks, there's a lot of things that can go wrong with that and a lot of cases where things can be worse. We determined the bets way to tackle this is to manually go through and tackle this. Its still going on then.

    Certain items and megaflux tanks are disabled as these were the vectors used for the bug abuse essentially. We are cleaning a whole bunch of accounts up and we have people working overtime to do that and its incredibly important for us to get things back in a stable state.
    Some legit players were hit because of how the items/flux were pushed out into the economy. If you submit a ticket , the Customer Service team can look into it.

    Compensation

    For console players: (as downtime was minimal)
    1 Lustrous gem boxes, 1 Empowered gem box, 1 Adventure reliquary
    For PC players: (as downtime was a lot)
    3 Lustrous gem box, 1 3 day patron, 3 50% adventurine potions, 1 Adventure reliquary, 1 golden dragon effigy.
    Compensation will be given out today, it will obviously take a while and it will only apply if you logged into the game from the 7th August until when the server came down.

    Luxion missing event is still live for a few more days.
    He will be back on Tuesday August 14th for a week. and will have more goodies than usual this time! Each time Luxion appears, you will be able to buy 15 souls from him. By getting 100 souls, you unlock the final form of him for your own.

    For any players who have been banned, instead of sending a ticket to CS, please end an email to appeals@trionworlds.com for them to look into your case.

    Questions and Answers Session:

    Do banners have an effect in Bomber Royale?
    No, everyone has an equal playing field.

    How will you make sure this doesnt happen again?
    Weve been talking about it of course as its been going on and have been setting up a list of tasks today in order to stop that. There's a lot of things to do, its high on the list and its painful for all involved, players and staff.

    Did anyone get banned?
    Oh yes, very early on

    Boat wars?
    Weve talked it but no plans now

    Which specific bee mobs drop the bee fragments for the new bee dragon?
    All of them some that dont look exactly like bees. Bees, fireflies, candy cornets, magnetos, amperium flying drones.

    Will there be a fix for the shadow tower elites that do not drop loot or starfire fragments, particular the elites drafted from the everdark?

    Task just added to make it happen, no promises on a date but it is officially tracked.

    Can you add in a bonus for rampages on friday in addition to dragon stuff so we dont feel completely cheated when 3 rampages pop up in a row?

    With the u10 release,we will be making some changes to challenges to avoid problems like this They will be semi random but well be adding more control over exactly which challenges appear each day, We'll have more details as that release gets closer.

    When will the dragon for subscribing to emails finally be released?
    Urmhalit, who we have discussed a couple of times now, there is no final date for him, he's being worked on, its a real pain but were fixing him.

    In regards to boon boxes, can we have a method to farm them now that we no longer have a method to receive tokens?
    unfortunately no, the boon boxes are no longer available,they were pretty generous so we know why you miss them.

    When using a chaos spark on a gem, can we have it cycle through stats the same way you'd cycle through for an aura?
    We don't have plans for this right now but we wont rule it out in the future. We also will be removing some pain points from the gems. They wont be easy but they will be easier.

    I saw in the last stream notes you said that the Hyper pin EX would get a decon value and i was wondering we can get a date of when it will happen and what it will turn into?
    It will decon into 75 party animals and will be in the u10 release later this year.

    Will you expand the in game badges, such as dungeons completed, boxes opened etc?
    Its a good call, the consecutive days and number friends are unlikely. We do have to keep in mind the attainability for newer players too.

    Any plans to add new in-game badges based on bomber royale, geode, u10 and new gems?
    Possibly, were focused on making u10 as solid as possible first and then put some badges around it. No exact timing for that.

    Can you put old PVP back in the hub?

    The plan is not to do that in the near future, right now bomber royale is the focus, we dont want to split people up to much. You can still ccess it through the club worlds and we do recognise that can be a bit difficult.

    Are we gonna have any tier gems or gear?
    The grinding will get easier with u10, there is a new colour of gem and a new tier of gear.
    We'll get into more details of that in closer to to release.

    What can I do with coins from bomber royale?
    You can spend them at the vendors in the hub. The vendor will sell things like new auras, a golden dragon egg, decor pieces and a box with random stuff in it.

    Will some dragons be unlocked via effigy only in the future?

    No plans for effigy only dragons, we always work to give an in-game acquisition method for the dragons?

    Any plans to change the infinium mined contest to be expanded to all ores?
    cool idea, we now have it tracked.

    Will you add other class costumes to the resistor workbench?
    No plans right on that in the near future, there are no costumes coming out with each release but as of right now, not on the resistor workbench.

    Is the golden bee dragon egg in greater dragon caches?
    No,we don't introduce golden eggs for the dragons in the extra life packs.

    Are you going to add new equipment (not gems) like Armor/Suit, Boots, Pants, etc. ?
    We dont have a plan for that now.

    Why cant we buy credits directly off steam?
    The answer is fraud actually. Pretty significant fraud vector.

    Dream dew caves are pretty empty in comparison to other organic caves, is it a glitch or intended?

    That isn't intended, we looked into it and it should be fine but can you clarify? Organic lairs though aren't all just 1 type of flora in them. If there's something specific you are seeing please feel free to submit.

    Why is there not a mailbox or mail system for the game?

    Trove wasnt designed with one from the start and never bubbled up to be the most important thing to work on. Its a rather large system and its never made the cut from a huge list of ideas.

    Will there be new dragon world bosses coming with the geode U10?
    No, but there will be more gigastormers.

    Do you guys have plans to add more items to the bomber royale store?
    Yes we will be adding some more things with the U10 update.

    Will there be a plasma adventure from boothilda in the future?

    Yes, a task was added to track this so no date for it yet.

    Will there be any new talismans?

    No plans for new talismans at this time.

    Will there be another use for metamatter in the future?
    It can be used to craft crystal gathering potions so that's one very useful thing for them when you have too many.

    Is PTS open?
    No

    Are there any plans for bomber royale to count towards the trophy on ps4?
    Yes that is a change were doing.

    Will there be a new primordial dragon to go along with the new coloured gem?

    Yes, it wont be out the same release as U10 though, it will be after it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirokiri View Post

    Dream dew caves are pretty empty in comparison to other organic caves, is it a glitch or intended?

    That isn't intended, we looked into it and it should be fine but can you clarify? Organic lairs though aren't all just 1 type of flora in them. If there's something specific you are seeing please feel free to submit.
    Wasn't my question but it seems like Cave Kelp in tier 1 plant lairs seems so sparse in comparison to t2+ also. Don't know if that's intentional or what but yeah Cave Birds T2 vs Cave Kelp T1? huge difference. I could see why a t1+ resource like Dream Dew could be seen that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirokiri View Post
    ...
    Recent Bug issue:

    On PC there was a bug that people were able to exploit to gain lots of items and flux into the economy.Once we realised it was happening, we brought all the serves down to determine where it was happening and then immediately started the cleanup process for the PC players.

    When this sort of thing happens, were always making decisions on how to best preserve the economy and balance that whilst not punishing legit players and by not having the game down too long. We understand people obviously want to play the game. Its important for us to say we did not do a full rollback despite people asking.

    There are risk inherited by doing rollbacks, there's a lot of things that can go wrong with that and a lot of cases where things can be worse. We determined the bets way to tackle this is to manually go through and tackle this. Its still going on then.

    Certain items and megaflux tanks are disabled as these were the vectors used for the bug abuse essentially. We are cleaning a whole bunch of accounts up and we have people working overtime to do that and its incredibly important for us to get things back in a stable state.
    Some legit players were hit because of how the items/flux were pushed out into the economy. If you submit a ticket , the Customer Service team can look into it.
    ...
    How will you make sure this doesnt happen again?
    Weve been talking about it of course as its been going on and have been setting up a list of tasks today in order to stop that. There's a lot of things to do, its high on the list and its painful for all involved, players and staff.
    ...
    This isn't the first time a duplication exploit has affected the market (there was a duplication of pentas in December years ago and a duplication of mastery pinatas), and the lorekeeper egg deconstructing into 18 tokens was also a big deal. I am disappointed that you don't have a proper backup to these kind of issues, especially when this game has a reputation for having so many bugs. It is much more work and very messy to try to manually fix this problem. Just by looking at the market, it is easy for me to see this problem is not fixed, and I'm doubtful that it will be fixed since the servers are back online and people are spreading the flux even further.
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    Another week of underhand lobs answered, wish I could say I was surprised.


    Oops - Forgot to say Thanks Shiroki!

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    I wish they had said how much the Luxion dragon souls would cost - each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrz View Post
    I wish they had said how much the Luxion dragon souls would cost - each.

    Fasti said he would speak to Darkmoon about it and see if he can release that information to the forums for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirokiri View Post
    Fasti said he would speak to Darkmoon about it and see if he can release that information to the forums for us.
    That was a while ago and seeing how badly the community reacted to the "15 souls per visit" time gating, I'm guessing there's a reason they then didn't say how much they'll be.

    Forgot to say thanks Shirokiri for these awesome posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brayer View Post
    Forgot to say thanks Shirokiri for these awesome posts
    Yes! Thank you for posting these!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunar View Post
    Wasn't my question but it seems like Cave Kelp in tier 1 plant lairs seems so sparse in comparison to t2+ also. Don't know if that's intentional or what but yeah Cave Birds T2 vs Cave Kelp T1? huge difference. I could see why a t1+ resource like Dream Dew could be seen that way.
    Filling up reli in t3, an untouched large plant lair.. 21 dream dew, a large lair for cave birds or kelp in t2? 40~80. I can see what they mean. Moonlit moss outside of moonglow lairs is like 90+ per lair but in moonglow it's around 20 also.

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